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Family Tree DNA Announces Topics

FTDNATiP now available for ALL customers
FTDNATiP for Group Administrators
Understanding Your Results: Time to the Common Ancestor
Family Tree DNA Announces 37 Markers
Family Tree DNA Renames Y DNA Tests
Family Tree DNA Announces Ysearch
Family Tree DNA Forum
Public or Private
 

FTDNATiP now available for ALL customers
Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA
December 31, 2004 Volume 3, Issue 8

The powerful tool called FTDNATiP has been implemented for all Y DNA customers. Previously, FTDNATiP had been implemented for Group Administrators. Customers will now find the FTDNATiP icon when you click on the Y-DNA Matches selection on your Personal Page. To the right of each person on your Y-DNA Matches Page, for whom FTDNATiP is available, you will find the FTDNATiP icon.

If you are a member of a Surname Project, the FTDNATiP icon will appear for all matches who are members of your Surname Project. If you have any matches outside your Surname Project, the FTDNATiP icon will appear for matches at 25 Markers and 37 Markers.

If you are not a member of a Surname Project, the the FTDNATiP icon will appear for matches at 25 Markers and 37 Markers.

FTDNATiP does a calculation for two individual to determine the time to their most recent common ancestor. The calculation uses the individual Marker mutation rates. The result is presented in an easy to understand format, showing the probability for each hundred year period.

FTDNATiP is a proprietary algorithm developed by Family Tree DNA in conjunction with our Advisory Board Member, Dr. Bruce Walsh, a leading population geneticist.

The calculation by FTDNATiP utilizes the Y DNA results of two persons, and the individual Marker mutation rates. The individual Marker mutation rates used are a result of the study by the University of Arizona which was announced at the 1st International Conference on Genetic Genealogy, on October 30, 2004.

Documented evidence can also be input into the calculations, by entering the number of generations known that the common ancestor did "not" occur. This option is not available for exact matches, since the result of the calculation would not change.

FamilyTreeDNA is the only vendor to provide this powerful tool to the genealogy community.

FTDNATiP has several important benefits. The calculation comparing two individuals will provide probabilities for each 100 year period for the common ancestor. This information will help participants understand when the common ancestor most likely occurred between themselves and a person they match or closely match. In addition, the probabilities can influence or determine if you pursue a match. A third benefit is that FTDNATiP can be used to make the decision as to whether you should pursue a paper trail connection between the ancestors of two people who are a close match. A fourth benefit would be to identify branches of the family tree that are connected incorrectly.

Different pairs of people with the same Genetic Distance will most likely not have the same report. In other words, since each marker has a different mutation rate, identical Genetic Distances will not necessarily yield the same probabilities.

Since FTDNATiP uses the individual Marker mutation rates, a 37 Marker test is equivalent to a 56 Marker test that uses the assumption that all Markers mutate at a standard rate of .0004 or a 110 Marker test with the standard Marker mutation rate of .0002.

To learn more about FTDNATiP, see:

"FTDNATiP for Group Administrators" and
"Understanding Your Results: Time to the Common Ancestor"

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FTDNATiP for Group Administrators
Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA
December 3, 2004 Volume 3, Issue 7

Family Tree DNA is pleased to announce a new tool for Group Administrators, called FTDNATiP. This exciting new tool does a calculation for two individual to determine the time to their most recent common ancestor. The calculation uses the individual Marker mutation rates. The result is presented in an easy to understand format, showing the probability for each hundred year period.

FTDNATiP is a proprietary algorithm developed by Family Tree DNA in conjunction with our Advisory Board Member, Dr. Bruce Walsh, a leading population geneticist.

The calculation by FTDNATiP utilizes the Y DNA results of two persons, and the individual Marker mutation rates. The individual Marker mutation rates used are a result of the study by the University of Arizona which was announced at the 1st International Conference on Genetic Genealogy, on October 30, 2004. Documented evidence can be input into the calculations, by entering the number of generations known that the common ancestor did "not" occur.

FamilyTreeDNA is the first to provide this powerful tool to the genealogy community.

FTDNATiP has several important benefits. The calculation comparing two individuals will provide probabilities for each 100 year period for the common ancestor. This information will help participants understand when the common ancestor most likely occurred between themselves and a person they match or closely match. In addition, the probabilities can influence or determine if you pursue a match. A third benefit is that FTDNATiP can be used to make the decision as to whether you should pursue a paper trail connection between the ancestors of two people who are a close match.

Currently FTDNATiP is only available to Group Administrators. FTDNATiP will be made available to all customers, and the code is currently being written for that purpose. An announcement will be made in the newsletter when FTDNATiP is available for all customers, and a selection will appear on the "Y-DNA matches" section of your personal page.

Group Administrators can access FTDNATiP from their Member Page on the Group Administrator Page. Click Member, then select one person of the two you wish to compare, and click on Report. Then select the other person for the comparison, and click FTDNATiP on the far right.

To learn more about FTDNATiP, see:

"FTDNATiP for ALL Customers" and
"Understanding Your Results: Time to the Common Ancestor"

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Understanding Your Results: Time to the Common Ancestor
Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA
December 3, 2004 Volume 3, Issue 7

The new, powerful tool FTDNATiP, announced above, is currently only available to Group Administrators. All customers will be able to use FTDNATiP within the next several weeks. A selection will appear on your Y DNA Matches page. [Note: As of Dec 31, 2004 FTDNATiP is available to all customers]

Once the selection appears on the match page, you will be able to select a match for comparison, and get a FTDNATiP report which shows the result of the calculation comparing two individuals. This report will provide the probabilities for each 100 year period for the common ancestor. The probabilities can influence or determine if you pursue a match. FTDNATiP can also be used to make the decision of whether you should pursue a paper trail connection between the ancestors of the two people who are a close match. FTDNATiP incorporates new mutation rates from the FTDNA/University of Arizona mutation rate study.

For both Group Administrators and individuals, FTDNATiP can provide useful information to assist you in your genealogy research. Below are some example outputs from FTDNATiP. Keep in mind that each report comparing two individuals utilizes in the calculation the individuals results and the specific Marker mutation rates. Therefore, two people with a Genetic Distance of 1 will most likely not have the same report as two other people who have a Genetic Distance of 1. In other words, since each marker has a different mutation rate, identical Genetic Distances will not necessarily yield the same probabilities.

Below are some examples from FTDNATiP. First is an example where two individuals are a 36/37 match:

 

-------------------Years--------------------
100      200      300     400     500     600       
56.46%  87.40%  96.84%   99.26%  99.83%  99.96%   Probability of common ancestor
In this example, there is a 56.46% probability that the common ancestor occurred with in 100 years, and an 87.40% probability that the common ancestor is within 200 years.

As you can see, this output format is much easier to understand than a graph!

FTDNATiP also allows you to enter the number of generations known where the two people do not have a common ancestor.

The above comparison between the two individuals did not include the any known genealogy information. The genealogy doesn't go back very far for these two individuals, due to a brick wall. It is known that the common ancestor did "not" occur in the last 4 generations, so a genealogically enhaced correction was then entered, and the calculation rerun, producing the following results:

 
100-200    300     400     500     600   700    
69.29%   92.09%  98.13%  99.58%  99.91%  99.98%
You can see how the probabilities changed with the additional information.

The custom calculation comparing two individuals provides probabilities that the common ancestor occurred for each 100 year period. This information can help you decide if you should pursue a paper connection.

In the above example, the common ancestor has a very high probability of occurring in the 1700's or 1800's. Depending on the surviving records for the geographic area, it would definitely be worth while to pursue finding the paper connection.

Consider the following situation: Two participants are a 34/37 match, and their ancestors lived in the same county in the 1800's. Should they be searching for a paper connection in the 1800's, or is it more likely that the common ancestor occurred much earlier?

The results from FTDNATiP are the following:
 
100     200      300     400     500     600       
3.68%  25.94%  56.38%  78.99%  91.23%  96.70%
In this case, it is highly unlikely that the common ancestor occurred in the 1800's. The probabilities show that the common ancestor was in the more distant past. Therefore, it would not be a wise investment of time to pursue the paper connection in the 1800's.

FTDNATiP does a calculation comparing the results of two persons, using the individual Marker mutation rates. A genealogy factor can be input into the calculations, by entering the number of generations known that the common ancestor did not occur.

Below is an example comparing two individuals who are a 34/37 match, and do not have a common ancestor in 16 generations:

 
400-500  600     700     800     900    1000
60.63%  86.22%  95.58%  98.67%  99.62%  99.90%
 
The paper connection may never be found for these two individuals, since Parish Registers only started in the 1500's in England. The time prior to Parish Registers is where the highest probability of a common ancestor occurs. Wills and Manorial Records would be the best source to find a common ancestor.

FTDNATiP is now available for all customers. A selection appears on the "Y-DNA matches" section of your personal page.

To learn more about FTDNATiP, see:

"FTDNATiP for ALL Customers" and
"FTDNATiP for Group Administrators"

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Family Tree DNA Announces 37 Markers
Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA
December 15, 2003 Volume 2, Issue 12

Family Tree DNA announced 37 Markers for Y DNA testing on December 15, 2003. Orders may now be placed for test kits for up to the entire 37 Markers.

According to FTDNA, "These new additional 12 Markers for our Y DNA test will provide additional resolution, and especially benefit individuals within our popular Surname Projects. The additional Markers may indicate the branches of family trees, and will reduce the time frame of the common ancestor."

The names of the new 12 Markers that are being added are:
DYS 460, GATA H4, YCA II a, YCA II b, DYS 456, DYS 607, DYS 576, DYS 570, CDY a, CDY b, DYS 442, DYS 438

37/37 Marker match and the time frame of the Common Ancestor
These additional 12 Markers will reduce the time frame to the Common Ancestor. For a 37/37 match, the time frame of the Common Ancestor at 50% probability is 4.7 generations, and at 90% probability is 16 generations.

50%  90%
37/37 Match 5 generations 16 generations
36/37 Match 12 generations 27 generations
35/37 Match 19 generations 37 generations

The Cost for 37 Markers

Y-DNA 37-marker test $229
Y-Refine 12 to 37 (to upgrade a 12-marker test to a 37-marker test) $149
Y-Refine 25 to 37 (to upgrade a 25-marker test to a 37-marker test) $60


Who should consider upgrading:
1. IF
you have an exact or near match with another participant in the Blair DNA Project
AND
if you do not know who your common ancestor is, you and your match should consider upgrading to 37 Markers to try to narrow the time to your most recent common ancestor.

2. IF you mismatch with another participant in the Blair DNA Project by 3 or 4 markers 
AND you believe you share a common ancestor but are not sure, you and the other participant might consider upgrading to 37 Markers to prove or disprove a common ancestor.

3. IF you are a 12/12 or 25/25 match with another Surname, an upgrade to 37 Markers is recommended before pursuing the match.

Who should NOT upgrade:
1.
Anyone who is not part of one of the Blair groups (you do not match or closely match anyone else in the Blair DNA Project) should not upgrade until they find someone the closely match.

2. IF you have an exact or near match with another participant in the Blair DNA Project
AND
if you know who your common ancestor is, there is no reason to upgrade.

Consider the following example taken from group 3:
This group has 6 participants (#3947, #4311, #4990, #6800, #7427, and #7986). The only "known" connection is between #3947 and #4311. There is an exact 25 marker match between #3947 and #4311. 

The table below shows the number of mismatches between the participants. 

  3947 4311 4990 6800 7427 7986
3947   0 2 2 3 3
4311 0   2 2 3 3
4990 2 2   3 4 5
6800 2 2 3   1 3
7427 3 3 4 1   4
7986 3 3 5 3 4  

If we assume that participant #6800 has the group "DNA signature" than all other participants mismatch on either 1, 2, or 3 markers. (Note: 3 mismatches is stretching the limits to be included in a group, but this group has very rare values of two of the markers and the mismatches occur on the "faster mutating" markers).

There is no reason for both #3947 and #4311 to upgrade their known common ancestor has been established. The rest of this group and either #3947 OR #4311 should consider upgrading to 37 Markers. The upgrade could  either tighten this group up and help establish a better timeframe for a common ancestor or it could show that some of those in this group do not share a common ancestor in a timeframe that could ever be documented.

How to Upgrade:
Anyone wishing to upgrade to the 37 Marker test can do so by going to their FTDNA Personal Page, http://www.familytreedna.com/ftLogin.asp?kit=xxxx&code=yyyyy (where xxxx is your kit or participant number and yyyyy is your code provided by FTDNA. If you don't know your code let me know). Near the top of the page on the right side you will see "Order Tests". Click on this all fill the form that comes up. FTDNA already has your DNA sample, so you will not have to send a new one.

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Family Tree DNA Renames Y DNA Tests
Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA
December 15, 2003 Volume 2, Issue 12

In conjunction with the new product offering of 37 Markers, the Y DNA tests and upgrade tests have been renamed, as follows:
Y-DNA12
Y-DNA25
Y-DNA37
Y-Refine12to25
Y-Refine12to37
Y-Refine25to37

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Family Tree DNA Announces Ysearch
Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA
December 5, 2003 Volume 2, Issue 11

Family Tree DNA is pleased to announce a public service database and associated tools for searching and analysis at Ysearch.org.

Ysearch.org is a free public service for those whom have utilized Y DNA testing, and provides tools to enter your test results, and search and compare results. The Ysearch database offers the ability to enter results for up to 43 Markers. These 43 Markers represent those used by commercial testing companies as well as scientific laboratories.

At Ysearch, you enter your Y DNA test results, and then a powerful set of search tools are available. For FamilyTreeDNA customers who have taken a Y DNA test, a selection will appear on your Family Tree DNA Personal Page allowing you to upload your data to Ysearch. Simply click the Ysearch Upload selection, to have your Y DNA test results entered into the Ysearch database. You can then select what additional data you would like to enter, submit it, and then use the search and analysis tools at Ysearch.

At Ysearch you can also enter your Haplogroup, as well as perform a Haplogroup search. Ysearch also provides the ability to enter information on the progenitor, or founder, of you family tree. You can also search by surname, surname variants, and ancestral information. Unique features of Ysearch are the Genetic Distance Reports as well as the YseachCompare, a tool that allows you to compare side-by-side different results.

Ysearch is a resource for genealogists to find others who have utilized DNA testing. To enter your results at Ysearch, either click on Upload at Ysearch on your Family Tree DNA Personal Page, or go to: http://www.Ysearch.org

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Family Tree DNA Forum
Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA
April 30, 2003 Volume 2, Issue 2

In April, Family Tree DNA implemented the Family Tree DNA Forum, which is now available for both customers and visitors at the FamilyTreeDNA.com web site. The Forum will enable the users to share information and ask questions.

To access the Forum, click on the link below:
http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com/forum

You can make this link a favorite or bookmark. The Forum can also be reached from the FamilyTreeDNA.com home page. In the lower left of the home page, you will find the words "DNA Forum". Just click on these words, and you will go directly to the Forum.

The Forum has two message boards. One of the message boards is called "DNA and Genealogy", and it is open to both customers and visitors. Everyone is welcome to post questions, respond to questions, or browse to learn more about the fascinating subject of Genetic Genealogy. To browse this message board, from the main Forum page, simply click on the message board title.

You can browse the "DNA and Genealogy" message board, but to post to the message board, you must register. To register, click on the register button in the row of blue buttons above the message board. You will only need to select a user name, password, and enter your email address to register. After you are registered, you can select options for your profile, by clicking the "user cp" button in the row of blue buttons above the message board. Another advantage of registering is that you can receive email notices when a thread is updated. You can choose to receive email notifications of new posts in a thread without posting in that thread, by clicking the 'Receive updates to this thread' link displayed in the thread page. If you choose to stop receiving email notifications from a thread, you can turn off the option by either editing your
post, or by unsubscribing from the thread.

In the row of blue buttons above the message board is a blue button labeled FAQ, for Frequently Asked Questions. It is important to read the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) before you register for the Forum. Any question you have should be answered by the information at FAQ. As you use the Forum, any time you have a question about how the Forum works, click on the FAQ button in the row of blue buttons above the Forum.

The other message board is called the "Group Administrators Forum", and this one is only available to those who have become a Group Administrator with Family Tree DNA. This message board is also accessed from the main Forum page, by clicking on the message board title "Group Administrators Forum". Group Administrators must register to view and post to the Group Administrators Forum.

Posting a question to the Forum is quite easy. After you register, you will be allowed to post to the Forum. To post a question, just start your question with "Can someone explain ...", or a similar approach. The Forums are an opportunity for experienced customers to share information and knowledge by responding to questions posted to the Forum. These Forums are monitored by Family Tree DNA, who will review the answers to questions posted, and post a response if warranted. The Forums are an excellent tool to expand your knowledge regarding Genetic Genealogy.

These Forums offer many additional features, ranging from adding your picture so it appears with posts, private messaging, and setting up a buddy list. Click on the blue button labeled FAQ, to read all about the diverse features of the Forums.

To visit the Family Tree DNA Forums, click on the link below:
http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com/forum

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Public or Private
Facts & Genes from Family Tree DNA
April 4, 2003 Volume 2, Issue 3

For those who belong to a Surname Project, the Public/Private setting is very important. The Public/Private setting determines whether the search for Y DNA matches will only look for matches within the Surname Project or will look for matches in the whole Family Tree DNA customer database of those set to Public. When a participant is set to Private, the Y DNA search is restricted to matches within the Surname Project. When a participant is set to Public, the search looks for matches to all those Family Tree DNA customers who are also set as Public, and matches will show up as long as customers have signed and turned in the Release Form that came with the kit.

The default setting is Private. A setting of Private is recommended for participants with a 12 marker result, who belong to the Haplogroup R1b. Haplogroup R1b is the most common Haplogroup in European populations. Therefore, those participants who belong to Haplogroup R1b and only have tested 12 markers will tend to get many matches with other surnames, which are not relevant. For this reason, it is recommended that the participant be set to Private until they upgrade to 25 markers, which will only show relevant matches when set to Public.

The Public setting is recommended for all other participants of Surname Projects. A Public setting will look for Y DNA matches in all Family Tree DNA customers who are also set to Public and who have signed their Release Forms. As the database grows, a Public setting may enable you to find variations of your surname that you may not have considered, and strays who most likely have a different surname as a result of adoption or an extra marital event.

The default for the Public/Private setting is Private, and the setting can only be changed AFTER a kit is returned. 

To find those matches after the setting is changed from Private to Public, one needs to go to their personal page and click Y DNA Matches. In addition to that, an email will be received for all future matches when they are added to the database.

To check or change your Public/Private setting:

- go to Update Contact Information on your Personal Page.
- Look below the email address at the line that reads:
"Restrict Match notifications to your surname Project"

If there is a check mark in the box, you are set as Private. If there is no check mark, you are set as Public.

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